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Lísis By Plato Francisco de Oliveira,

  • Title: Lísis
  • Author: Plato Francisco de Oliveira
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  • Ah, Hippothales, I said what a noble and really perfect love you have found I wish that you would favour me with the exhibition which you have been making to the rest of the company, and then I shall be able to judge whether you know what a lover ought to say about his love, either to the youth himself, or to others.
    L sis Ah Hippothales I said what a noble and really perfect love you have found I wish that you would favour me with the exhibition which you have been making to the rest of the company and then I shall

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    1. The Trial of Socrates and Rolf Harris part 1 A courtroom at The Hague SOCRATES, ROLF HARRIS, various COUNSELS and COURT FUNCTIONARIES, JOURNALISTS and members of the PUBLIC COURT USHER The case of Zeus versus Socrates and Rolf Harris, Lord Justice Cocklecarrot presiding, all rise, all riseCKLECARROT Please be seated Socrates and Rolf Harris, you stand accused of corrupting the youth of Athens and Perth How do you plead SOCRATES Guilty.HARRIS Not guilty Murmurs from the public gallery COCKLECARRO [...]

    2. And I would rather have a good friend than the best cockLysis is the Plato dialogue on Friendship After a preliminary discussion with Lysis about his parents and the things he is and not premitted to do, Menexenus enters into the dialogue and the focus shifts to friendship Socrates says, I should greatly prefer a real friend to all the gold of Darius, or even to Darius himself I am such a lover of friends as that And when I see you and Lysis, at your early age, so easily possessed of his treasur [...]

    3. Socrates is Plato s Christ like figure in that he asks enigmatic questions designed to provide knowledge and self revelation for those wise enough to see it His dialogues seek to answer some consequential over arching question in the case of Lysis here, What is Friendship through a series of smaller deceptively simple questions But also like Jesus, Socrates cannot be taken at face value His questions are never as they seem, in that your answers say about YOU than they do about anything else Pla [...]

    4. After a little small talk about the boy and his favourite other boy his lover , Socrates jumps right into the main issue which is what is the nature of friendship Socrates gives a definition Then another one Then another one Then he says to himself that his head is dizzy my head too with thinking of the argument Then another one Then he says may not the other theory have been only a long story about nothing Really Socrates At last he admits that it s really ridiculous to be in a friendship with [...]

    5. Plato offers a very clinical and detached view on Friendship There is a utilitarian view on this subject and Socrates subtly implies he prefers having a good friend over love Lysis seems like an easy read but isn t so as Reason plays alongside the dialogues on necessary of others in our lives Great primer to Plato s dialogues.People walk around calling everyone there best friend The term doesn t have any real meaning any Mere acquaintances are lavished with hugs and kisses upon a second or at mo [...]

    6. While the Symposium is an exploration of eros erotic passionate love , this earlier and shorter dialogue is an examination of a different, but nevertheless related, kind of love, philia friendship.

    7. Read this in relation to some background research for a chapter in my thesis I am totally unfamiliar with Plato s work, though I am generally familiar with his ideas on a second hand basis This was a good work on friendship, which had broader definitions than our modern concept I like how his philosophy, this work in particular, takes the form of a short story it makes the ideas a lot easier to digest, although this was a tough one with rather complex arguments And, after all that, it came to no [...]

    8. Well It was a perfect lesson on how to keep on talking for an hour and mean absolutely nothing at all I do not understand the need to confuse things when it could ve been done the easy way It seems like Socrates is talking like the sophists,simply creating confusion without intending to reach any conclusion I wouldn t recommend this dialogue to people who don t have enough patience.

    9. Great and readable primer on the Lysis I d definitely recommend it as a first read to get one s bearing on the actual dialogue It doesn t bog the reader down with all of the interpretive disputes about the dialogue It is a straight read If the reader is interested in disputes, the final chapter will point them to the greater issues at stake in interpretation.

    10. Di logo sobre a amizade e o amor entre amigos uma sucess o de aporias que termina em c rculo, de forma que n o satisfar queles que precisam de uma defini o bem comportada e final sobre o que a amizade, mas um baita treino de dial tica.

    11. One of the headache inducing Socratic dialogues that I ve read Concerning friendship, love, and good and evil, with Socrates doing most of the talking Really convoluted and hard to follow half the time At one point Socrates alludes to evil being necessary for good to exist, as was believed by some Oriental philosophers that he probably wouldn t have been aware of, but he quickly refutes himself in that too Ends on an amusing note from Socrates O Menexenus and Lysis, how ridiculous that you two [...]

    12. Interesting and thought provoking dialogue by Plato exploring the nature of friendship Although the dialogue did not reach any specific definition of friendship, it shows that philosophy is rather about raising questions than providing answers However, it seems that as human relationships and nature are complex and subject to many interconnected factors e.g Biological, genetic, cognitive, emotional psychological, social, and cultural , it is difficult to reach a clear cut definition of such cons [...]

    13. Clear translation, inconclusive dialogueBenjamin Jowett s translation is clear and straightforward In this dialogue, Socrates challenges young men who have indicated their friendship They explore several possible definitions of friendship Mostly, they eliminate i.e what friendship is NOT I appreciated the style of this dialogue Other than that, I didn t like the inconclusiveness of it.

    14. The arguments didn t seemed scholastic than insightful, and Socrates does not pretend to have reached any conclusion But, there is something touching about this group of friends hanging out one night like nerdy kids who don t want to party, comfortably in their friendship, but unable to say what friendship is.

    15. Kembali berpikir bersama dengan metode dilektika untuk menemukan makna akan persahabatan Sebuah bacaan yang sebaiknya dibaca mereka yang ingin memahami lebih mengenai arti kata sahabat itu sendiri dan mengapa kita bersahabat.

    16. This was actually pretty difficult to follow because of all the ideas they bring up and agree with before Socrates quickly tears them down They never reach an actual conclusion on friendship either they just understand that they are friends.

    17. Dime, entonces Cuando alguien ama a alguien, qui n es amigo de qui n, el amante del amado, o el amado del amante O no se diferencian en nada Plat n, 1981, 212b

    18. Habla en esta ocasi n S crates de la amistad y para ello estructura Plat n este di logo en tres partes En la primera, camina S crates por las afueras de la ciudad para no distraerse con el campo u otra cosa que no sea el encuentro de sus semejantes, cuando se encuentra con tres amigos en el gimnasio Entre ellos, uno quiere cultivar la amistad de Lisis, pero no le hace m s que elogios, aconsej ndole los dem s que no es ste el mejor modo de ganar el afecto de alguien En la segunda parte, S crates [...]

    19. Leerlo al mismo tiempo que Filosof a del budismo Zen , de Byung Chul Han, hizo que salieran a relucir durante la lectura los problemas de la l gica formal, de la tica cl sica De hecho, aunque Plat n retoma y refina el argumento en El banquete y en Fedro , este resulta sorpendentemente inconclusivo y, cosa curiosa, manifiestamente imperfecto Lisis es, en breve, un libro muy ilustrativo.

    20. A cool dialogue on friendship Plato uses something like Formal Logic to try and figure out what philos love is all about Plato is getting us to think about philos and what s going on, not arrive at a conclusion, or less A cool thought puzzle Will make your head all wobbly and dizzy, though.

    21. Nice I ve read it in spanish translation For some reason, most early Plato s works in english seem poorly Search for good editors before reading philosophy, I think this is a good advice.

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